|
Post by Spectra on May 14, 2009 10:00:15 GMT -5
Your site premise, of northern horses dominating the weak and the southern horses opposing them, is exactly the same (though more vague) than The Secret's premise. Sonora is also a member of The Secret, so I know for a fact that she has read our plot.
So basically the entire concept of the site (including the layout of some of the boards and having a sun god and moon god) is stolen. I'm very disappointed that anyone would do that, I know coming up with original ideas is hard but taking other people's ideas is NOT original and NOT acceptable.
I know I'm asking a big change of your site, but that is only because you stole my ideas in the first place. I hope you will cooperate and try to make things right. I will be keeping an eye on this site since you have made it clear that you cannot be trusted to use your own ideas.
PLEASE, stop stealing my hard work!
|
|
|
Post by Kiakoura on May 14, 2009 10:09:36 GMT -5
Nothing has been stollen, not that I am aware of, have you not seen how many sites are out there with one side against the other. Some are dark VS light and basicly that is all this site is.
It's the evil horses going after the good horses and trying to win over the world while the ligth horses just want peace and freedom. Gods, the whole moon and sun stuff is one horse is tagged 'moon' because the moon is out when it is dark, and the other 'sun' for the obvious that it is light.
|
|
|
Post by Ami on May 14, 2009 10:27:15 GMT -5
No, if it were Dark versus Light, your site description would have Dark and Light instead of North and South. If you still want to organize them based on regions, then say "Darks of the North" and "Lights of the South". You are not only ripping off The Secret, you are doing it blatantly. You can't pass your site off as, and I quote, "A Unique Horse Role-play" if all you are doing is taking an idea from another successful rpg.
I wish you the best of luck with your site, but you are going to attract significantly more members if you use your own ideas. Allow your members to create some new concepts and put them into play rather than simply borrowing from another site and then claiming you are using your own ideas when it is perfectly clear that you are not.
|
|
|
Post by Spectra on May 14, 2009 10:27:46 GMT -5
The point is that Sonora is on my site and took my concept directly. Just because it's less specific doesn't mean that she didn't take my idea. Light vs. dark has been around for many years, but having a northern army, weaklanders/captives and the defending south? That's only been around since February 2008. On The Secret.
|
|
|
Post by Kiakoura on May 14, 2009 10:37:39 GMT -5
It may seem stollen, but isn't the North always seen as a dark place, and the south a light one. Example being North Child, the norths are adventrous and vicious, while those from the south are calm and giving.
Just because Sonora is on your sight dosn't mean she has taken from you, this site is young yet and i'm sure there is much more to be added along with stuff to be changed.
|
|
|
Post by Ami on May 14, 2009 11:05:09 GMT -5
From the FAQ on The Secret:
Exactly what you just said:
Please explain how you can possibly not see that as a rip off.
|
|
|
Post by Kiakoura on May 14, 2009 11:11:13 GMT -5
I really cant see what your trying to say Ami. You have just told me that The Secret is not about light VS dark, while clearly this one is. And what you said about my last comment makes little sense to me.
The way that reads is your telling me that north and south arent opposites.
|
|
|
Post by Spectra on May 14, 2009 11:14:51 GMT -5
I'd like to hear what Sonora has to say about this. After all, there's no way she could not know that she was taking the concept from TS (ESPECIALLY calling those living between the north and south "captives" and "weak", taken directly from our joining board and plot).
|
|
cooks
New Member
When I say lol I'm not laughing I just can't think of anything to say. :/
Posts: 15
|
Post by cooks on May 14, 2009 11:19:48 GMT -5
having a sun god and moon god
-x-
That's not original. So many sites, books and films have this it's just looking for a fight to blame us from 'stealing' this off you.
And the quotes that you just put up are actually agreeing with us. o.O
You have said that the North and South aren't always dark and light, Koura has said that this roleplay is light versus dark.
Please, stop embarrising yourself. This is a classic roleplay, stop claiming it was your idea.
|
|
cooks
New Member
When I say lol I'm not laughing I just can't think of anything to say. :/
Posts: 15
|
Post by cooks on May 14, 2009 11:29:36 GMT -5
Our Plot:
Long ago, the two sides lived in harmony, but everything changed when the rough stallions of the North attacked. They stole mares and used them for their own pleasure. This angerd the kind stallions of the south, they fought back, trying to rescue the mares and make everything back to the way it used to be. And so, the two nations were flung into conflict. The north's goal, to rule over all, to be the masters of the weak. The south's, to protect the weak. It has begun. Who will you be in the Forgotten Equines.
Your Plot:
There was peace once, though by now it is but a distant memory in the minds of those old enough to remember. There was order and cohesion, and nothing to fear. The Keepers of Hesperides stayed within their walled Haven, and none disrupted their peace. There was always a rumor that an object of unspeakable power lay hidden within those great walls, but in time the rumor grew dull with age. But now a young stallion, maddened with greed, is gathering all the information he can about this mysterious object of celestial power. Flanked by the powerful drafts of the northern lands, he is murdering and taking prisoners left and right. There is only a handful of southern herds that stand against him, led by the mysterious Theseus. If they are vanquished, the Keepers will be on their own. Chaos and uncertainty abound. How much longer can the forces of reason hold off this madman?
The board is set, the pieces are in play. Whose side will you join?
-x-
They are both very different.
|
|
|
Post by Ami on May 14, 2009 11:35:02 GMT -5
Sorry, I will clarify. Yes, TS is not about light versus dark, and yes, she is saying that this one is. But where is the evidence of that? Do you see the words "dark" or "light" once up there in the upper corner? I don't.
Basically, what I was trying to point out in as few words as possible, which was obviously a mistake, is that you are only claiming that this is about light vs dark because it is not and you are being called out on it. In that second quote I referenced, it was stated that the Northerners are not always dark, and the Southerners are not always light. The quote from The Secret is saying that while the Northerners are usually cruel, they are not always this way and likewise for the South.
If this is about the Dark North and the Light South, then they should be mentioned according to their alliances and not only their regions, because that is the part taken directly from The Secret. And yes, many sites have a sun god and a moon god, but they do not generally use them in conjunction with this plot; a thing that is done to my knowledge only on The Secret.
The administrators here may not have taken the idea of an object of power, simply because that would be an irrefutable theft, but the North-Weak-South premise is very clearly from The Secret. I know that people "borrow" ideas all the time, but stop trying to deny it and claim that this site is different, when it very clearly isn't. At least admit that the idea isn't your own.
|
|
|
Post by Spectra on May 14, 2009 11:36:38 GMT -5
I presented the sun and moon god as yet ANOTHER parallel between The Secret and Forgotten Equines. I do not claim to have invented that concept in particular. However, the north-captives-south concept is plainly copied from our site. I shouldn't have to tell you that. Just look! What you've posted is not the entire plot, it doesn't cover the formation of the Weaklands.
And maybe before vehemently declaring that we are cruising for a fight, you should let Sonora explain herself. If you don't know anything about the situation, you have no place in this discussion.
I don't mean to be such a pest, but it hurts me that you guys are so quick to call me a liar and continue a stolen RPG concept. I put time and effort into planning my RPG, and I don't want a paraphrased equivalent to take away from its originality.
|
|
cooks
New Member
When I say lol I'm not laughing I just can't think of anything to say. :/
Posts: 15
|
Post by cooks on May 14, 2009 11:39:41 GMT -5
I know, I know, I'm just a little annoyed that you came in here and claimed we had stolen out plot. I don't mean to be goody-two shoes, but I didn't want to start a fight, just prove my side of the story. I'm sure you're trying to do the same.
|
|
|
Post by ;; S O N O R A on May 15, 2009 1:49:36 GMT -5
(Havent got long im going on a trip wont be back till monday, saw this decided it was important)
I didn't steal your plot Spectra, and I'msorry if you think I did, but in my site the darks live in the north and the lights live in the south, I did it that way cuz south=near equator where it's warm and stuff and north=near north pole. In your site any type of horse can live anywhere and they have mingled personalities. My plot is very diferent to yours, as yours involves some object of power or something like that, mine is simply darkVlight to free/enslave the mares in the captive lands =/
(I cant reply again untill Monday sorry)
|
|
|
Post by Spectra on May 15, 2009 9:15:19 GMT -5
Northern stallions preying on the captives is EXACTLY what goes on at TS. I was notified of this issue specifically because a member brought it to my attention that the plot and board arrangements were too similar to be coincidence. You didn't copy the whole idea, I'll give you that. But as previously stated many times, we coined the north-captive-south layout. Maybe it wasn't on purpose, but as a member of TS it's pretty hard to miss the similarities in layout and terminology.
Can you at least name them all differently (and maybe refer less to the north-captive-south terms present in TS) so it appears different? Maybe some more influence from master/slave equine RPGs would help differentiate between our respective sites.
|
|